How To Fill The Groove and Float the Fourth - Page 2

(TANK) · #11 09-19-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hookster

Not cheap but Numrich has bolts for SBE II and other models as well.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...tSKU=739920&MC=

Hookster

Wow!!!!!!! What a price tag. I don't think I'll be floating any time soon

. Just bought the gun and can't bring myself to sanding on my baby.

Trapshooter1 · #12 09-19-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker301

You actually have a perfect understanding of how it works.
It's tricky with 3.5" shells, because you have to open the bolt enough, but not all the way.

I would think that the carrier coming up and pushing the shell against it would stop it even with this done, but it obviously works, someone sent me a PM with a video demonstrating how it is loaded with a shell floated, thanks to all for the information!

Chairborne · #13 09-20-2009, 08:20 PM

Interesting that you used devcon. We use it to fill dents on aircraft leading edges. If it can stand up to 500+ knot airspeeds and pressure/temperature ranges we deal with it should work a treat on the low stress application seen here.

mudhen · #14 09-20-2009, 10:59 PM

I wouldn't mess with the JB deal for many reasons:

The plugged gun issue is federal in nature. You think your state F&G is tuff? Wait until you have to travel to the nearest federal court to make an appearance. I see Mr. Tanjeans almost as much as I see Mr. Greenjeans.

That little blob of glue could end up costing a shooter his gun + some hefty fines. I sometimes hold two shells in my left hand and can rattle off five shots pretty quickly. I have incorrectly been accused of floating and/or pulling the plug. Can you imagine me telling the fish cops that I only float during spring snow season? Can you imagine a judge buying that after seeing the glue? I don't float and I wouldn't believe myself

The whole SBE floating thing was a big issue in my area a few years back. I've talked to wardens about it. They know about it. They read these websites. I know several wardens in my area that read the Refuge Forums on an hourly basis during the season. I've been called 'mudhen' by wardens at 5 a.m. in the pitch black.

Nope, no desire to pick at this scab. The bolt was modified by Benelli for legal reasons, and I'm fine with their logic.

If you want to float, buy a gun that floats unmodified

But that's just my take.....

tucker301 · #15 09-20-2009, 11:06 PM

Good points, mudhen.
Do this alteration at your own risk.

I'd be interested to know if anyone's been written for it.

mudhen · #16 09-20-2009, 11:13 PM

Just thought I'd add that I don't care if someone floats. That's your call

It just seems safer to float with an unmodified gun or only use the modified gun legally.

Might be a good reason to keep an eye out for older SBE's - they are starting to show up cheap, although in pretty poor condition. But if the gun is not totally shot, a few parts from Brownells could keep that old SBE running for a looooong time

agm65ccip · #17 09-20-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mudhen

Can you imagine me telling the fish cops that I only float during spring snow season? Can you imagine a judge buying that after seeing the glue? I don't float and I wouldn't believe myself

Nope, no desire to pick at this scab. The bolt was modified by Benelli for legal reasons, and I'm fine with their logic.

I would imagine (not having talked to wardens about this issue) that if you plugged your magazine for 1 less you would be alright. Meaning if I made a plug that would limit the magazine to 1 round and I floated that would bring the total capacity of my gun to 3 just like it should be.

I don't see what this mod buys you really, when I wanted more rounds I just slapped a mag tube extension on

mudhen · #18 09-21-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by agm65ccip

I would imagine (not having talked to wardens about this issue) that if you plugged your magazine for 1 less you would be alright. Meaning if I made a plug that would limit the magazine to 1 round and I floated that would bring the total capacity of my gun to 3 just like it should be.

You be pretty sharp! That was the discussion I heard when the issue first came up - that all SBE's would have to be plugged to hold only one shell

But, from what two federal fish cops told me, Benelli agreed to add the groove, and the fish cops agreed to not push the issue on the existing guns.

Don't know for sure if this version of the story is accurate, but it sounds logical...